I love your reply. And then there may be political implications also. I love the boldness and clarity of this article. God is love and His plan for man-kind was always about love. Religion perpetuates numerouslies about the character of God. They point to things like opposition to gay marriage, violence done in 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape Gods judgment? Some said that it was but I was not in agreement with that. It makes NO sense!!!! Jesus offers you abundant life here and now, but religion says the life you desire is only available tomorrow. Glad to meet a Nigerian here. By religion are you referring to the mainstream Christian denominations such as catholics, anglicans, lutherans etc. Well said jason b. As you mentioned I had revelations of many of these issues that Paul brings to the forefront and met with great criticism, but I dont regret any of it because I know who told me and am so blessed by Holy Spirits revelation of the truth of Gods love for us. The Living Bible explains it well. I will do great things. Proven in the resurrected Son as High Priest for us to live new in. Viewed in this light, decrease of church membership would not be concerning. I need people to journey with, here at home in Vermont. A blind adherence to principals will cause you to sacrifice friendships and crucify your brothers. TRUE that religion is robbing some of our precious brothers and sisters. Maybe not a literal death, but a death of joy, peace, unity and purpose found in corporately following Christ. The question is are we gonna continue on or give up? Are the law & Grace different or separate? Stephen, Romans 7 does not say the law brings life. The highway of religious pride does not go to the throne of grace (Gal 5:4). To cause the production of fruit from the branches (us). . This is repeated in Hebrews 10, and this is the New Covenant, that the Commandment to love God and love our neighbors, would be written on our minds and hearts. As in, now we separate the Law from Grace__. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The Gallup poll was striking in its incremental character. It really bore witness to me. John also speaks of the vine keeper washing the leaves.The vine keeper lifts us up and continually washes us. People talk about religion like its a good thing and I always wondered what the definition was. Jesus is also the word and the Spirit and the word agree. The Religious Right will come to rue todays LGBT discrimination decision. Christianity is a religion. Kenneth G. Lucey, philosophy/religion professor emeritus, University of Nevada. Send questions or comments to
[email protected] or on Twitter at @rajanzed. I havent found really anyone who wants to do that. But hopefully empty seats motivate us to reflect and make important changes. Sometimes its a lifelong process, but it sure is awesome to be led into the arms of grace. So that you may be certain in your mind, here are ten reasons why religion is bad for you. I am about to star a ministry called Gracelink is so . A drop in the membership of organized religion does not mean that Americas social and moral fabric is destined for destruction. That is the mission Jesus came to accomplish. There are many good social benefits to a good church, but religion isn't one of them. The Newer Testament is like an adjunct yet, also an essential part. The Rules. God does not withhold from us; we withdraw from Him. We think Adam and Eve were fools for listening, but we repeat their mistake whenever we look to ourselves as our source of security and joy. James 1:27 NLT We argue about everything. For instance, note that lots of denominations are seeing 3-4% year over year declines in membership. Can you come to Nigeria to launch this ministry ? So true, yet by saying things of Christ, Christ is revealed to those that are serious to know Father. In a 2021 Gallup survey, only 37% said they had a great deal (or quite a lot) of confidence in organized religion. These are related statistics. My response to this article may be different than others I was left with the hungering question, But where else can I find fellowship? I dont want to be a Lone Ranger, walking and learning on the path of Grace all by myself, in my living room, just me and Jesus. The now-lawful ability to publicly withhold good & services from bad people will undoubtedly blowback Robert W. Chorey, curia moderator and chancellor, Roman Catholic Diocese of Reno. Theyre both choices. God bless you greatly. Thank you Jesus for coming to rescue us!!! Its the serpent saying, Do this and you will be like God.. and when nothing makes sense everything kind of does and who controls the strings? My error: The law leads us to Christ. Next weeks topic: Is a child born as atheist or a believer? So yes religion is bad. hey I thank you for your article today wow Im super religious my church doesnt teach this stuff. (For the previous point, it is talking more about modern day mistrust between religious and non religious people, not ancient wars). If not attending an organized church (where religion tends to hang out), where else do people find fellowship? Which does not mean look to Jesus and act like Him. Wow wow wow! All the way we are trying to do is again keeping an eye on religion and comparing it with a GRACE which is far glorious than that. They will also visit and support temples, but formal membership is never considered essential for a person to be considered to be religious. AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. Might we better know the the written law [as well or better than the newer covenant], to know better what is being meant, when those in biblical terms, point back to all the commands & older covenants Jesus so often did? Insanity is doing the same thing again and again expecting a different result. Jesus gave of himself for the good of the world, for the good of others. The problem is not religion; the problem is how we treat each other in the name of religion. What you said-You are a sinful, little grub with no value except that which you produce. It is the silent message even grace preachers relay when they try to USE you for your testimony in spite of legal or other problems you might have. @Michell33650674 @JacquotLeGrand I identify as non-religious. You are a sinful, little grub with no value except that which you produce.Jesus didnt suffer and die to establish religion. Stuff Jesus Never Said, Comment Policy But did you know that religion shares every characteristic of a cult: authoritarian leadership, indoctrination, exclusivism, isolation, and opposition to independent thinking. N savior Jesus Christ very nice descriptions as my opinion Christians has also one religion that is belongs to particular congregation whereas we all are well known that no anybody or any congregation will save us or give eternal life untileunless not accepting as Saviour , we have to escape from congregation religion like others corrupting. Its not about having to do this or that, which is bondage and where is the freedom Christ spoke of in that? I will be like the Most High. Religion runs on will power and speaks the language of Satan (Is 14:12-14). Is there any greater sin than looking at the Savior who went to the greatest extremes to give you life and saying I must produce life in myself? Change). Rt. Micheal L. Peterson, northwest Nevada media specialist, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I know the religion, self righteousness thing seems to be the norm for the rest of the US. Hi This is Pinky from FB I just signed up to get these too the other is KCs even though it says KC and Michelle/ Anyway I had read only the first half and now after the second half just wowza! When light comes darkness goes away. The kingdom is relational, its family, its togetherness. He may reject you.. As people turn their faces from God and His teachings and toward the carnal things of the world, the spiritual light of truth is lost. This is a decline in quantity; however, the quality is better. Its super-duper important that we seek to separate Law and Grace in our Christian experience. We are told that trying to do all of the things commanded of us in the first covenant will produce fruit unto death. This dehumanizing doctrine of demons is a million miles from the gospel of Jesus. Every organized religion has a history of violence and oppression which may carry over into modern and future times. That is the real issue right there that is the mindset that has the precious bride of Christ acting like a street lady of the night in the slums rather than basking in and radiating the glorious union we dont even realize we have. Hi Paul. But your teaching on religion is the best I have read or heard anywhere! Hi Bishop Moses, Im a minister in one of the Nigerian Churches in Lagos. I truly want to know about love of God and Jesus death on the cross. Once you receive grace what else would you want but to share it? This share includes some who do not like the hierarchical nature of religious groups, several people who think religion is too much like a business and others who mention clergy sexual abuse scandals as reasons for their stance. Until we are convinced of Gods gracious love for us, as creatures created to need love as much as food and air to breath, our flesh will seek and find a way to EARN it. The God of anger and wrathful doings never existed except in the mind of man and was promoted by religious beliefs. So be reconciled to God as God is reconciled to us all in Sons death. Hebrews 8:7 tells us that the second covenant wouldnt have been needed if the first was faultless. Without a U-turn, we are headed down the wrong path. WebMatthew 23 New Living Translation Jesus Criticizes the Religious Leaders 23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. I will make things right. People get mad at me and say no its because he wants to use you its all about bringing in the lost. Surely God requires us to do this and a little of that. [ a] 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but dont follow their example. If it were all a big meeting once a week as a community to meet, greet and discuss, no issue. See the difference? Doesnt the one compliment or bolster the other? Reply to Stephen Meek: they are one with Him in spirit-those He loves John 3:16: Jesus died for the whole world. A place to post an opinion you accept may be flawed, in an effort to understand other perspectives on the issue. Romans 8:28 is a promise to us all, from Father of in risen Son for us, Thanks Brother. Archived post. May God bless you. Religion will lead you to say things like, God raised up ISIS or Covid to serve his purposes, and Divorce your current husband (who loves you) and return to your first one (who abused you). (Ive heard both claims in recent weeks.). At the heart of religion is the belief that we can make ourselves good. A hastening of our societal decline will unfortunately continue as more and more parents cease teaching their children the word of God in favor of the philosophies of man(2 Timothy 4:3-4). Blessings, Congregations must ask themselves: What needs in our community are not being served? Im not against good principles. I have been to various churches through my life searching for something I couldnt put a name to but found it in Joseph Prince and again here at Escape to Reality. Like the Mafia, religious institutions may hide behind a storefront of good deeds. Not here so much not that I have noticed. The bad comes from organized religion and religious organizations. It makes you feel cheep and stupid but it claims to be your friend. Traditions, religion takes us us away from Grace? I was curious if you had any recommendations for a proper, grace-filled commentary on the epistles of John (1 John, 2 John, 3 John)? Grace is Jesus, who He is, what He did, and what he is doing in and through us as and it builds from there. Hence, declining religious participation inevitably reduces those societal benefits. The idea Christians and pastors kind of spread around is that if God heals you or gives you some kind of blessing it is ONLY for the purpose of USING you and bringing others to the kingdom. When the children of God dont realize HE IS GOOD, and they dont understand the finished work of the cross, Satan just plunders them and my heart breaks as they suffer needlessly. Ive experienced all of these and my religion made the cross of no effect in my life. My parents think I am going to hell for not going to church but then they say going to church wont save you??? Subdue the earth, be the caretaker of it & everything in & on it for (IAM) Me. When you catch a glimpse of who you really are through the eyes of Father, Son and Spirit it astonishes the heart. He knew their sins before He died. On the other hand, every home was expected to have a special room, orat leasta quiet corner, where the members of the family will go for prayer or meditation. LOL!!! Religious texts outline events which are not supported by our current understanding of the universe. Is not religious law wholly different from the Law of God Jesus fulfilled? Americans' membership in houses of worship continued to decline last year, according to a Gallup analysis published earlier this year. Since religion is false, while Gods Word is true, it has to redefine words like repentance (penance), faith (works), hope (wishful thinking), obedience (rule-keeping), and grace (grease for the gears of self-effort), lest it be exposed for the sham that it is. Not sure how you got John 5:15 to say that, but the Ten Commandments are all about loving God and loving your neighbor. In this discourse Jesus raised the bar from simply obeying the rules to a level where the rule keepers would have to admit they can do nothing but fail. So I want to thank God for you and the great work you are doing in His name. Only they never get caught! WebYes, it is good to question and to grow in our belief based on our own intellect and will, but organized religion provides what our intellect and will cannot: a community that understands the human experience and a place for worship of And if so, how great do you think that love is? Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. I also hear from priests around the country who are experiencing similar trends. And what would you consider to be His Commandments? Thank you so much for this teaching! And I want to be conscious of his love alone not a religion that does not honour Christ. So, Christianity is a religion. And to top it all off, some of the annulments (i.e.) Well, Well, Well, My, My. We are addicted to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and our only cure is the tree of life. The lie was simple God doesnt really love you. It would be better for all concerned, if you contend for the faith once delivered to the saints, than this, a different gospel. Steven, I would like to reply to your comment in my understanding of Grace and Law as spoken of as covenants, seperate yet complimenting. I think that sums it up. Wayne. There are no conditions on The Fathers Love. False churches that create rules God never required (such as celibacy) set up leaders for moral failure. I will never fall away. Foster, minister, Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Northern Nevada. Although the law is good, it is not good for you. In a year when the government had barred free exercise of religion due to health concerns, you would expect a bigger decline! The law points to the person living in the box with criticism -you are in this position because of your choices. Regarding the precious words of Jesus, please see this post and definitely this post. But it wont work if youre not all in. If the organization supports, and is secondary to, the biblical worship of God, then, yes, People do not understand or care, and when you attempt to tell them, they say you are UNLOVING and mean and pushy. The now-lawful ability to publicly withhold good & services from bad people will undoubtedly blowback against the dwindling numbers of Americans practicing organized religion. God has never been alone. These quotes are all so awesome! It is never applied to organized Judaism or organized Buddhism. WebWhy do some say that organized religion is actually a bad thing? Telling them they must change is not helpful and only worsens their condition. Like a cult, religion discourages questions and marginalizes those who fail to toe the line. Paul, Religion runs on will power and speaks the language of Satan (Is 14:12-14). It stirred things up a bit when I shared that with a fellow church member at the time. Some have said that Im giving religion a bad rap, that religion is not the evil empire I make it out to be. All rights reserved. Thats 70,000 Sabbaths to figure out it doesnt work. Gods His-story, His is being the Father we being adopted Sons (not children as in child-likeness), if we are known by Him. Its actually kind of obvious that some change would be helpful, dont you think? Moses O. Kattey. Especially this one-Religion is idolatry. So refreshing! In Christ you are completely holy and righteous, eternally forgiven and accepted forever! Paul I commend you for the truth of this article. He knows that the love he has toward God and his neighbor (Israel) is produced by first being loved by his heavenly Father. That is obviously very, very bad. By religion I am referring to an institution that promotes itself as a self-help or insurance scheme but whose fundamental purposes is to enslave. The only choice that can save you from anything is to allow His life to produce the fruit of the Spirit in you. There is no need for me to go on and on. Addicted to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, I like that! The Religious Right will come to rue todays LGBT discrimination decision. God turned me around. The freedom and love we get, once we realize the truth, is, as Eph. People have basic spiritual needs and when our institutions of faith are not adaptable or supple enough to reach most people, those needs are met in other ways. I would note that 2020 also saw skyrocketing crime and substance abuse. When religious communities lived this humble way such good was achieved: Hospitals and schools were built; the poor and needy were fed; the voiceless were given voices. Not to say I have it all figured out. Make no mistake religion is rotten to the core. The biggest idol is the one called ego or Self. I would love some ideas. Amen thanks for this, there is so much information I can use when asked these exact questions about grace and religion. I will make things right. Jesus offers you abundant life here and now, but religion says the life you desire is only available tomorrow. If its not in the Bible, dont believe it, and if someone says, God didnt really mean that, it really means Then beware, thats the same line Satan used in the garden. (But hearing the mixture of law and grace can get old at times!). They hear the happy sounds of a divine party, but their pride wont let them join in. Thank you Papa. (For the record, the ABC numbers cannot be right, and Im saying that as a 20-year minister in the denomination). I just came from a prayer meeting and with every powerful prayer of grace and believers authourity, was an echo of doom and gloom from the religious sectorcorrecting each prayer of truth of the Word of God with lies from the pits of hell and the mind of man. "Organized It means look to Jesus to live His life in you. WebThe church becomes just another organized institution that postmodernists distrust. I am new to this E2R but the little time I have been here, a lot have really changed in my entire way of my spiritual life. In NYC we call the established but every famous spirit-filled pastors Christian mafia. Learn how your comment data is processed. I agree and have always said I hate religion, as it detracts from a personal relationship with God. The deeper I walk in grace (having my lens polished) the further and faster I run from religion. I think that religion is really just for personal gain of the people running it. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Google etymology of the word religion and you will see that it comes from a Latin word meaning to bind.. Grace always existed until man decided he didnt want to be graded on Gods goodness, but on his own. Thanks for your comments Pinky! Tell religious folk that theyve been conned and their investments count for nothing, and they will tear your head off. As a matter of fact, according to Hebrews 8: 10 FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS, AND I WILL WRITE THEM ON THEIR HEARTS. Dawn M. Blundell, senior pastor, Epworth United Methodist Church, Fallon. Almost every seriously religious person would believe something that is at least partially contradictory to what has been proven to be possible, or is plausible given our current knowledge. Psychologists have debated the question for decades. The now-lawful ability to publicly withhold good & services from bad people will undoubtedly blowback against the dwindling numbers of Americans practicing organized religion. When the majority of us here first heard this message we were probably in a church that wasnt preaching pure grace. I started doing a research and found that there were people who were for, and some against but when I received this message and read it, I said, Yes, this is it! Thanks for opening my eyes man. Those who worship Him in Spirit & in Truth they are one with Him in Spirit those He loves. To my mind, it suggests a need for transformation. Instead of receiving the powers from Him who died to provide every good thing, a man of God kills himself trying to receive blessings from fasting. Now how many in and out of faith in the God of Creation are still clinging to the first? Organized religion, specifically the main three monotheistic religions (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism) cause more harm than good to human society and individual people. Organized religion is For since day one in the fall, God has had Mercy, and he clothrd Adam and Eve put them out to find out, the lie they got involved in as the be Gods so out of the garden to find out and till the soil and have Children after them all of us here today, in the valley of the shadow of death, this earth we are in and not a part of once belief sets in and the curse reversed by Sons death and life for us given us in belief to this by Father, thank you, For the enemy of God, lucifer whom is defeated ever since The Christ was raised form the dead, and keys he had taken from him and kicked out victory is Gods for us in risen Son, I no longer live of the flesh and now only of the Spirit and yet do not always act that way, wish too, but in reality do not yet God remains Faithful, 1 John 2:1-2Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV). The runner that was the Law is DONE WITH ME and can go sit down as Jesus takes off running with me in His hand. Amazing! Thats good Paul! Grace is the new system, you say, then help me understand also, of the potential to create pretext out of context to fit a possible agenda vs truth? LJP Was Wayne A. saying, people dont measure up or is he saying the condition[s] has more to do with unbelief? And when your a child you want to please your parents and their friends. The problem is it gets us no closer to God, only improves the flesh or makes you guilt ridden. I think simplicity was what Jesus was teaching when He said we need to come to him like the children do. Religious groups create community for millions of people, along with an opportunity to find meaning and purpose. The Law God vs the laws of men? Paul was attempting to keep true believers in Yshua (Jesus) from being defiled by the oral rules How can believers today, fully realize the error Paul is pointing to in Galatians 5 & many other Newest Covenant passages unless we familiarize ourselves in the differences in law? Peter,you say that the ten commandments are all about loving God and your neighbor. (LogOut/ America is following the same pattern of abandoning God as self is elevated. I would be hesitant with the Grace factor. Religion, is law what you have to do. I cant really say I understood your reply but if it is in line what Paul teaches then I am okay with it. Cookie Notice The only catalyst for change is the empowerment that comes from the revelation that there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Overlay religion on these and its like smothering a fire with a blanket, youll snuff it out. Privacy Policy. In Mark 12:28-31, Jesus gives us the two most important commandments: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. Love God and love others thats true religion, not just a set of beliefs or dogma. The flesh wants to be good (self-righteous.). I did start a Grace home fellowship with 2 other couples which lasted for a couple of years. Ever since I have been saved, I had this idea that I used to call Christian radio shows about. Praises to our Lord. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The vast majority of the church will say, well I agree with most of this but I have a small problem with point x or point y. This is also known as self-righteousness, also stated as what we must do to obey. Even you would not believe some of the stuff that goes on in NYC churches by clearly anointed pastors. Posted on February 10, 2016 by Paul Ellis // 100 Comments. I used to attend one of the biggest ( churches). Why does he do this? Unfortunately, most have also left the life of faith, as we know it. Grace is a lie a deception based on popular sentiments, its a failure and its a product that works better in the hands of the law. Yeck! Thanks! Dear Jason & all who have commented__yes, knowledge can be like a little leaven. I have not been attending much as the church teaches a cheap grace, badmouthing Joseph Prince and others basing their fears, which it really is, on 2 Timothy 4:3. There are increasing mental health challenges in every age group: 36% reported anxiety or depression in June 2020, compared to just 11% the previous year(Kaiser Family Foundation). I will follow Jesus anywhere. True religion calls us to a transcendent; to a higher power beyond the I. Divisiveness exists in our communities, even our churches, because we focus too narrowly on individual rights, needs and wants. 12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his names sake. Thanks Mike, anyone using the name of Jesus, and not having the right motive, God is not worried over that at all, For those called will come to see him.
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