About 1:30am Darlenes husband and some friends came home() took the two girls home, this shortly before 2am Babysitter testimony----time discrepancy. One of the men mentioned was the surviving victim in the Vallejo homicide Michael Mageau." If you will go 1 mile east to the public park on Columbus Parkway you will find the kids in a brown car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXukjx9eweo She would certainly have to be fast Shawn. But,nevertheless,he attributes LHR and BRS to ''Vallejo''. But,in late 1970,behind the scenes,the FBI would have been ''spitting blood'' over the CA DOJ's utimate decision,not to officially authenticate the Bates correspondences,as being that of the Zodiac. Vallejo Cold Detective Poyser (assigned to Zodiac murder at Blue Rock Springs) recently commented that he likes Arthur Leigh Allen as a suspect. For one, the parking lot was only an upward slant from the narrow (26 feet wide) Columbus Parkway back then. Carol Beth Hilburn Oakland A's Letter He didnt take credit for this until after Blue Rock Springs. Michael Mageau was only 19-years old when he along with Darlene Ferrin were gunned down multiple times in Ferrin's 1963 Corvere at Blue Rock Springs Park in Vallejo, CA. firecrackers. May 2020 Mageau told them, "I'm shot and the girl's shot. BLUE ROCKS TO OPEN 30TH SEASON AT HOME ON APRIL 8. Zodiac Killer Facts February 2020 I suppose the question boils down to whether people believe he was a Vallejo resident." Darlene left, saying that she was going to take Christine home, then go home herself and drive the babysitters home. September 2014 Zodiac had tanned their hides.and,''Right Royally''. Under normal circumstances a stranger would have noticed the park sign. , Darlene said she wanted to talk to him about something, so they turned the car around and headed to Blue Rock Springs Park. According to the police diagram the parking lot was 328 feet long and 99 feet deep from road to the rock wall. The suspect's car was listed in the police report as a Corvair or Mustang, medium light brown in color. there was a witness that heard the murder and his testimony lined up with the witness. After the initial volley of five shots, the assailant retreated - but upon hearing Michael Mageau start to yell, returned to the Corvair to again shoot each victim twice more. He was both the hunter and he made himself the hunted. January 2019 Los Angeles Letter This is because the photo in question gives us three absolute points by which to judge the layout of the old parking lot. They warned that the person calling himself the Zodiac may be watching the house. Sadly, he was successful in his game. BLUE ROCK SPRINGS PARK: Another Anniversary Without Answers Darlene hadn't gotten home yet. They were both hungry and decided to get something to eat. But most importantly, 2 of those 3 significant eucalyptus just make it on the far left of the photo. From the phone calls ZODIAC made (July 4 and Sept. 27, 1969), we know he had a minimal familiarity with the locations. July 2013 Left - Cheri Jo Bates Crime Scene | Right - Zodiac Lake Berryessa Crime Scene . I live in Coventry, but don't exactly know the point it ends and begins- probably because it's not that important to most people. Terry's Waffle Shop, where Darlene Ferrin worked at the time of the murder. Stated that after they arrived at 1300 Virginia Street and waiting for Darlene that there was two phone calls where there was no answer on the other end -- Statement of Dean Ferrin and Bill Lee (Ferrins employer). Jim Kern knew what I was looking for and had already set it aside in a manila folder. However the fact that he was silent after LHR (but for the possible 'crank call') could also signify that he was a local showing caution or gaining confidence. I am not sure if Nancy knew wrote in shorthand. Domingos/Edwards Murders arents were Mr. and Mrs. Leo Suennen of 130 Jordan St, Vallejo. The car then drove off at a fast rate of speed back towards Vallejo to the south. When babysitting in Feb or March 1969 at Dean and Darlene's previous address of 560 Wallace Ave, at approx 10 PM, she noticed middle-aged man sitting in white american-made sedan, watching the apt. No man is an island. Nor was he in a state to notice the sign. It was Murder and Seek. olice dispatch operator Nancy Stover receive. On February 13th 1970,and just 4 months later,the L.A.Times publish a letter,written by the Zodiac. As Zodiac,himself [?].L.E. April 2018 Zodiac: Just the Facts - Blue Rock Springs - YouTube Darlene and Christine planned to go to the holiday festivities downtown, and Darlene told the babysitters that they would be back by 10 pm. He claimed to have killed 37, but the actual number is unknown. Conspicuous,by its absence,perhaps [?]. Leona Roberts Murder Here is a different version to the story of Blue Rock Springs on July 4th/5th 1969. THE BALLISTICS AT BLUE ROCK SPRINGS - ZODIAC CIPHERS THE BALLISTICS AT BLUE ROCK SPRINGS 1/12/2017 The testimony of Michael Mageau after the Blue Rock Springs attack on July 4th 1969 described an assailant who approached their vehicle, fired off five shots, before retreating and returning to deliver a final volley of four shots. As soon as Morrill gave Avery some positive feedback on the Bates correspondence,Avery wasted no time,in putting out a piece,in the SF Chronicle,that a Zodiac link was ''definite''. In his call to police dispatcher Nancy Slover, Zodiac claimed that he shot the couple with a 9mm Luger, but this claim is the only real evidence that the weapon was a Luger. Pam would later claim that she had seen this mysterious man on at least eight occasions, and that Darlene warned her to stay away from him because he was a murderer. They were shot with a 9 millimeter luger. September 2013 Fingerprint Evidence Mike Mageau described the suspect as a white male "older than me." The officer estimated that he had been in the parking lot "approximately 15 min prior" to receiving a call from police dispatch at 12:10 AM, suggesting that would have been in the parking lot at around 11:55 PM. https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR19.html and https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR21.html, "At approximately 11:30 or shortly thereafter" Darlene Ferrin picked up Mike Mageau at his house at 864 Beechwood Ave, Vallejo, a 5 minute drive from Darlene's house. On November 17th 1970,an article referring to the Bates case,and written by Paul Avery,entitled ''Zodiac link is definite'',is published in the SF Chronicle. While the couple sat in the car, a second car drove into the lot and parked behind them. On the point of ''Russian conscience'',Carl,and I do ask the question,rhetorically,as much as anything else : What should they have done better ? December 2012 Get a doc." : Debra ___, 19, Roger ___ 17, and Jerry ___, 17. https://zodiackillerfacts.com/myths-legends/darlene-ferrin-myths-the-beginning/darlene-ferrin-myths-the-painting-party-the-stalker-andrew-todd-walker/ (SOURCE?? I guess it's too late to kill me now, isn't it? Darlene again called Mike Mageau at around this time, and told him that she would be over shortly. NOTE: Times below are estimated, based on a reasonable interpretation of various testimony, Darlene Ferrin called Mike Mageau and the pair made plans to go to a movie in San Francisco later that night. November 2019 The timeline will be reconstructed from the numerous statements contained within the police report. October 2017 https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR13.html. I do like your last line,for consideration : Mike Mageau | Zodiac Killer Wiki | Fandom Now we suddenly have two new envelopes to test? ", &T (Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company) operator call, a payphone at Joe's Union, at the corner of Springs Road and Tuolumne Street, Some time after midnight, Dean arrived at home with his employer and employer's wife. He also said that "it was dark out and hard to see the subject." The phone booth where Zodiac called Vallejo PD after the Blue Rock Springs murder, was at the corner of Tolumne St and Springs Rd, a 9 minute walk from Arthur Leigh Allen's house, roughly between Allen's house and Darlene Ferrin's house on Virginia Street. Still a good offering from you,Carl.The murder has yet to be solved. Is it no times ? The teens later said that they "guess the time they were at the park as real close to midnite, possibly a little before midnite." Firstly,that the murder was committed,in a ''moneyed'' and relatively quiet part of the city. ''Mare Island'',alone. Jim Kern did a 300 dpi scan for me and this allowed me to crop the image and examine the parking lot. May 2013 While Ferrin died, Mageau became the Zodiac's first survivor. https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR8.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_Killer. However, this relies heavily on the premise the killer headed home at 11.15 pm. When Ed Rust arrived he noticed Hoffman tending to Michael Mageau, who was lying on his back on the ground by the open door of the car, Darlene Ferrin was observed motionless behind the steering wheel of the car. After his first murder on December 20, 1968, he is silent. June 2017 Red Phantom Letter Over 40 years later, only April 2014 Since the park, especially the parking lot, has undergone drastic alterations, it must be restored historically from documents and photos. Ironically, he gave away what he probably didnt intend. Avery must have been ''salivating'' before he had taken it all in [?]. I think Arthur Leigh Allen is the only named suspect to be a resident of Vallejo. They must have stopped for at least a couple minutes to figure out what was going on, before speeding off to call the police. Ed Rust tried to ask Darlene Ferrin what happened, but he could not distinguish what she mumbled due to the severity of her injuries. About 1:30am Darlenes husband and some friends came home() took the two girls home, this shortly before 2am Babysitter testimony----time discrepancy. Forecast For Cancer Karen, the babysitter, said she was there taking care of Darlenes daughter, and that three unidentified white males arrived, and that she soon left the residence, due to the fact she was uncomfortable with these strange individuals. Vallejo PD report 1977 https://www.zodiackiller.com/Walker7.html, . 13 Hole Postcard While the pair were chatting, another car entered the lot and parked beside them. He makes the same mistake after his attack at Lake Berryessa on September 27, 1969. If there is ever a public enquiry into the ''debacle'' of the case of the Zodiac Killer,I would suggest that few would be in doubt that the finger points to the CA DOJ,for weak leadership [?]. Suspected "Zodiac" Forgeries Zodiac Killer - Blue Rock Springs Deep Real Estate Ad It was Murder and Seek. it doesn't necessarily makes us right about Zodiac not having been born and brought up,in that areabut,instincts are not unfounded [?]. NOTE: It seems impossible that the Vallejo PD would have mentioned "someone calling himself the Zodiac," as the killer did not mention his pseudonym in the call to Nancy Stover. Many women in secretarial/clerical type jobs back then knew how. " I don't think the killer knowing where the V/B line was goes very far in establishing his likely residency so much as his decision to never mention Benicia and to group the first two attacks under the heading of Vallejo. Bearing in mind that we both believe that he was,in all probability,a Vallejo resident,at the time if the Bay Area murders : Just after midnight of July 5, 1969. He was both the hunter and he made himself the hunted. A driveway lead about through the park (there was once a train ride up on the hill where there are now parking lot annexes); and two walking paths lead into the park area. He was there for several hours, but left before Dean returned home from work at midnight. The assailant then calmly walked away and got back in his vehicle. Pines Card November 2017 So I knew immediately what this meant but I had to look at a map first. and minutes may have "seemed like hours" to him. The FBI would have felt shafted,from both ends,and questioned their real purpose,in the investigations. The teens later said that they "guess the time they were at the park as real close to midnite, possibly a little before midnite." FoxBeach 6 mo. Albeit just an opinion,I don't place that much importance on the difference between a quoted one mile or two.Personally,I feel that Zodiac was a resident,but that of not long standing,and merely wanted to convey an approximate distance,without becoming wrapped up in fractions. They turned around at "approximately the location of Mr. Ed's" at 1339 S. prings Roadan 8 minute drive from Blue Springs Park. You can see from the map above, it is impossible to direct anybody to the crime scene traveling. Judith Hakari https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR8.html. https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR5.html, In the documentary "This is the Zodiac Speaking," Hoffman estimated he checked the parking lot "a half hour or so" before the call at 12:10 AM. If we assume he was a driver and an outdoorsman it's not impossible that he knew of these parks and rest stops. But even in these he is quite wrong. Like Linda, Pam failed to mention this potentially important information during her many interviews with police, and her selective silence and sensational stories cast doubt on her credibility. Microsoft has removed the Birds Eye imagery for this map. Claims and Mistakes. March 2021 August 2018 The Zodiac Speaks Lake Berryessa 9-27-1969 San Francisco 10-11-1969. later versions of the painting party story would focus on the individual allegedly seen by Steve Baldino and Darlenes sisters Pam and Linda a sinister, well-dressed yet older man. Sla Letter March 2022 In addition, she could have been a fast writer, writing everything that was said. January 2022 What we can't assume is whether he just knew the area from past experience or whether he moved during the campaign. May 2019 When Zodiac made the Blue Rock Springs and Lake Berryessa phone calls, he rang the police. Hopefully we will know soon enough. For years my life was threatened. However, there are many alternatives. But,the stark reality remains,that chosen ''location'' presents the primary clue,in the crime's conception. Karen stated that Dee appeared to be genuinely frightened of this individual and mentioned sometime that he had been checking up on her at Terrys Restaurant where Darlene was employed. around 11:56 PM. Click the image to listen to his and Richard Hoffman's accounts of July 4th/5th 1969. If he was a local resident,had he been merely keeping his head down,after LHR ? Feet pointing west. I was terrorized, stalked, there were attempts on my life and then it all died down. Nancy Bennallack Joan Webster Discounting a likely 5 seconds when she talked over him to get his details, she would then have to write 46 words in 15 seconds (three a second). As history records,however,it wasn't quite as simple as that,and there would be further disputes over authenticity. It was a warm night and all the windows were open. Yes,I go along with you on the Vallejo residency for Zodiac.but believed prior,that residency could have been Beniciabefore I really understood Benicia's history and circumstances. August 2014 The one right on Columbus Parkway, by which a car is parked, is now gone. inaccurate if we go by Mageau's testimony. Now referred to as the ''slow boat to China'' letter,it alluded to the possibility of a Zodiac involvement in the Bates murder. January 2018 Finding out that Darlene was not home, "Dean left to find her." ''.Like I have always said I am crack proof,If the Blue Meanies are evere going to catch me,they had best get off their fat asses and do something.Because the longer they fiddle and fart around,the more slaves I will collect for my after life.I do have to give them credit for stumbling across my riverside activity,but they are only finding the easy ones..''. L.E. Ferrin died of her wounds but Mageau survived. Michael Renault Mageau ( 29 October 1949) was one of the victims of the Zodiac Killer during Blue Rock Springs incident in on July 5, 1969. Not knowing the name or just pretending he didnt know the name would not indicate he was a stranger. https://zodiackillerfacts.com/myths-legends/darlene-ferrin-myths-the-beginning/darlene-ferrin-myths-the-painting-party-the-stalker-andrew-todd-walker/, Mike Mageau later claimed that he and Darlene were chased around town by another car prior to the shooting. Bawart once told a television producer that Pam was nutso. Darlenes husband Dean Ferrin told the same producer that Pam and Linda were prone to prevarication. If it occurred today a six mile radius would seem too close for comfort for a smart criminal writing to the press about his exploits, but in 1969 police would still have a heck of a lot of work to do even with this information and I assume he would know that. April 2020 I think the Zodiac employed obfuscation tactics to manipulate his readers. Police dispatcher Nancy Slover was certainly not prepared for the call she was about to receive, crucially interrupting the caller and asking him for his details as he began his message. The Ballistics at Blue Rock Springs - Zodiac Ciphers ", By 12:47, a PT&T (Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company) operator called Vallejo Police to report that the call had been traced to a payphone at Joe's Union, at the corner of Springs Road and Tuolumne Street. It may interest readers of the,so far unauthenticated ''Benicia High School Note'',where a presumed Zodiac,again,doesn't mention ''Benicia''. In the background was the sloping parks long sweep of grass, the public bathrooms, and beyond this the majority of the parking lot. Climate. https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR10.html, Approximately 40 minutes after the shooting, the killer called Vallejo police and spoke with dispatcher Nancy Slover: "I want to report a double murder. Sept 27-69-6:30 I for one am again embarrassed by our force. He also said that "it was dark out and hard to see the subject." Zodiac: Just the Facts - Blue Rock Springs Tshirts By TeeSpringhttps://teespring.com/BlackBoxned88?pid=2&cid=2397Being Weird is Not a Crime Shirthttps:/. By his silence on December 20, 1968, we have learned something valuable. If you will go one mile east on Columbus Parkway to the public park you will find the kids in a brown car. Terry's Waffle Shop on Magazine Street, where Darlene Ferrin worked in 1969, at the time of the murder. actual time that officer Hoffman checked the parking lot was probably at least 10 minutes earlier, at, In the documentary "This is the Zodiac Speaking," Hoffman estimated he checked the parking lot ", the call at 12:10 AM. as the killer did not mention his pseudonym in the call to Nancy Stover. Blue Rocks Spring, July 4, 1969 -- The Quester Files Zodiac Killer Categories. AK is on it. I probably need a break,from the business of murder.But.your articles still demand answers and replies. After Lake Herman Road,nothing for six months.then he drops the ''double whammy''. January 2020 Nevertheless, if LHR was his first foray into murder, then it is certainly possible he used caution until his second attack, before the gradual increase in activity- which is exactly what happened. Understanding Blue Rock Springs parking lot layout in July 1969 is crucial to uncovering certain clues about The ZODIACs character. The killer walked away from the car but upon hearing Mageau's moaning, returned and shot each victim twice more before driving off. 1963 Chevrolet Corvair. July 2019 A potential ''knee jerk'' reaction of rage,from Zodiac.and a murder,because of personal circumstances,happens to come about,again,on Zodiac's doorstep. February 2016 March 2020 The following day, she told Darlene of this. Then take Columbus Parkway to the crime scene. Of even more interest is that the stand of 11 trees marked as within the parking lot can be made out in background. The 408 Cipher called and asked. Blue Rock Springs : ZodiacKiller - Reddit It was midnight and we were a little worried. 22 Year-old Darlene Ferrin, and 19 Year-Old Michael Mageau were shot without warning as they sat in their car at Blue Rock Springs Park on the outskirts of Vallejo. Episode 2 Blue Rock Springs Just over six months after a double murder rocked the city of Vallejo, CA, another attack only 2 miles away from the first would spoil Independence Day celebrations. ago Seems to me that Morf spends more time being critical of Doerr than he spends time being critical of his own POI. "Now I had just been out to Blue Rock Springs a half hour or so before that." Amazingly, despite all the publicity surrounding The ZODIAC murders, nobody bothered to go photograph and document the crime scene locations at the time. October 2021 The first was at Blue Rock Springs where he decides to brag. January 2021 This message now makes sense regarding a killer directing police from 111 Armador Street to Blue Rock Springs Park. Cipher Theories February 2015 November 2021 So,I don't think we should be taken in,when all these L.E.agencies claim that they got on,like a house on fire [?]. Yes Judith,we all have our crosses to bear,and I do sympathise with your,clearly,unsympathetic treatment from Mr.Voigt.for whom there are grounds to believe that his success as a ''propagandist'' far outweighs any ''claimed'' abilities,as a sleuth.